青出于蓝——东德蔡司7*50BINOCTAR以及7*40DF之面面观

lmh00518

这两台镜子都是东德蔡司的经典产品，均为早期的单层镀膜。一台的用户是中国人民解放军，另外一台的用户则是民主德国人民军。其年龄约相差10年。看外型，DF更加阳刚，更具有军品味，而81蔡7以其经典的造型和漂亮的漆面，更象是一件令人赏心悦目的艺术品。<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610142577064.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610142577064.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />
纵览两者的外型，DF明显比蔡7矮一截，也稍胖一些。握持手感还是DF更加稳定，也舒服。毕竟镜身比较短，重心较后。另外DF的包胶可以拆除，其镜体也有饰皮，相信手感也不会差。蔡7是饰皮+烤漆，漆面油亮且牢固，只会被磨掉而不会成块脱落，很是漂亮，DF是60年代开始普遍使用的麻面漆，容易整块的掉漆。<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610163260106.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610163260106.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />
看体重，DF重约1.2公斤（含附件），蔡7是1公斤左右。若拆除DF的包胶，目镜罩后两者重量也所差无几。
他们的目镜，DF的明显比蔡7要大，但也带来一个问题，就是抵目观测时眼罩容易碰到鼻梁，很不舒服。好在早期型柔软的橡胶眼罩可以轻松的翻下，亦适合戴眼镜时使用。

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两者的光学，可以说是各有千秋。DF内部容易起雾已为广大镜友所诟病，主要是其中密封油质量不过关时间长了导致挥发，以至于现存的DF大多都未能幸免，状况较好的则在统一后遍入联邦军继续服役。蔡7则是经典规格的经典镜子，其光学，舒适性也为广大镜友所知。两者相比，DF的优点在于视场较大，达150M/1000M，蔡7则是中规中矩的128M/1000M。图中这台是早期DF，与蔡7相比偏黄较明显。81蔡7是大十字分化，几乎占据了右镜筒的整个视场，DF则是倒T分化，感觉较小，对观察影响不大，有“用之即来挥之则去”的感觉。<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610191592023.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610191592023.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />

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附件方面，蔡7依然沿袭了传统的做法，即附带镜盒，挂带，滤镜，目镜罩，大衣扣。作为军镜，稍显烦琐，且尤其是镜盒，内部又糙又硬，镜子放进去后略有空挡，导致绝大多数现存的蔡7镜肩等突出部分磨漆严重。DF则给人耳目一新的感觉，包胶镜体，省略了镜盒，带有物镜盖，非常适合野战环境下使用。镜带，目镜罩屏弃了皮革，改用尼龙和塑料，更加便宜耐用（其大衣扣仍然是皮的），滤镜则装在目镜罩内，不占地方也不容易遗漏。<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610202710345.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610202710345.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />
蔡7作为一个“全能”的规格，广泛使用于各个军种，海军，陆军，防空部队，DF则多用于边防军和固定哨所内，机动部队多使用性能更好，结构更紧凑的EDF。
DF比起其前辈，完全的改头换面了，其设计的革新，多有可圈可点之处，为今后的军镜发展作出了重要的参考。最后，发几张图，以结束此文。(NVA使用DF的图一时没找到,抱歉,先发几张国内的凑数)<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610211353615.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2006-10/2006102610211353615.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />
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Schuetze

<>纵览两者的外型，DF明显比蔡7矮一截，也稍胖一些。握持手感还是DF更加稳定，也舒服。毕竟镜身比较短，重心较后。另外DF的包胶可以拆除，其镜体也有饰皮，相信手感也不会差。蔡7是饰皮+烤漆，漆面油亮且牢固，只会被磨掉而不会成块脱落，很是漂亮，DF是60年代开始普遍使用的麻面漆，容易整块的掉漆。</P>
<>蔡七的外層好像是琉化鎘不是飾皮嘀。</P>

lmh00518

我想应该是"硫化革饰皮"吧?

funder

DF后期的目镜眼罩改成和EDF一样的风琴状，另外其照明装置很有特色，东德军方似乎比较重视分划照明

我是军事迷

从图上看，PLA陆军用7，海军用8，比较怪哦。。。

tianhu1008

学习军镜的好素材[em04]从照片上看DF与EDF的外观非常相似，楼主说的结构紧凑、性能的差别外，二者的最主要区别是什么？

lmh00518

<>一个是普罗,一个是屋脊,外观怎么会相似呢?呵呵.</P>
<>EDF较DF的光学偏黄严重,视场更小,但锐度和边缘象质却有明显的提升</P>

schiff

哦,不丑.

funder

如果以民镜的光学评判来讲，EDF光学恐怕不如DF，不过其作为军镜（按照当时的背景下）是绝对优秀好用的，哪怕在现代拿来用，也能当不错的军镜。

ausjena

不谈光学,光做工就胜过国产镜.

ww3455

最后一张照片那个武警用的是什么型号的?

ausjena

[B]以下是引用[I]ww3455[/I]在2006-10-26 17:28:35的发言：[/B][BR]最后一张照片那个武警用的是什么型号的?

63式15倍

lmh00518

[B]以下是引用[I]我是军事迷[/I]在2006-10-26 11:08:59的发言：[/B][BR]从图上看，PLA陆军用7，海军用8，比较怪哦。。。

是很奇怪,不专业
[em06]

旺销奖

这些镜子得多少米？

tianhu1008

不知EDF称为7倍军镜之王不知有人反对没？[em05]

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-11-8 12:19:05编辑过]

funder

<>很多镜子都有特点，给一个封王难以服众啊，当年老沈给蔡7封了军镜之冠，争议颇多。随便举个例子，Mark 41，看起来绝对比EDF震撼。</P>

tianhu1008

<><FONT face=仿宋_GB2312 color=#1111ee size=4>    我认为评价一个军镜的优劣最重要是看它的实用性（单指军事用途），在满足基本军事用途的前提下，EDF的制造工艺、外观、光学及实用价值都属上品，其实EDF的实物我没见过，所有的感受全凭感觉，F斑竹能否贴个M41的图片欣赏一下，最近对军镜很感兴趣，想见识一下更优秀的军镜是什么样的？</FONT></P>[em04]

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-11-8 17:13:57编辑过]

funder

<>EDF对于其特殊的背景下，确实是很使用的军镜，虽然以民镜的标准来看其光学并不是很好。</P>
<>Mark 41可以看作美国版的U－Boat，一般大出瞳直径的望远镜，比如7×50视场都比较窄，而Mark 41， U－Boat这种是大出瞳直径，长出瞳距离，广角的望远镜，所以看起来很震撼。</P>

lmh00518

还有蔡司DELTAR,其视场甚至比U-BOAT还大,应该算真正的手持镜之王吧